Tang Hasan..Hassan tu pelan-pelan sikit..boleh tak?
--- On Wed, 3/30/11, ♥*¨*☆Fairlady Shania♥*¨*☆ <fairladyshania@gmail.com> wrote:
From: ♥*¨*☆Fairlady Shania♥*¨*☆ <fairladyshania@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2011, 2:31 AM
Emmm...sekarang nama uncle Nas dah menenggelamkan kes Anwar...tu dia, sakan kita bergegar satu RG, tapi uncle Nas ada kala berbicara...auuuu..sopan santun hu..hu..hu.... cam lagu Hassan budak jaga lembu lak...Hassan dan Hasnah... layannnn...oppp jangan marah arrr....
On 30 March 2011 15:57, Mohd Shukri Mohamed Talib <ees_herbs@yahoo.com> wrote: org japang pun tak kalut dgn bahasa inggeris nak jadi negara maju org melayu terlebih2 inggeris le plak nak maju bahasa sendiri jadi macam sampah
From: smile Miss <i_za_brilliant2000@yahoo.co.uk>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 2:24:43 PM
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
Saya rasa, elok kita bukak kelas belajar BAHASA INGGERIS ni... drpd dok salahkan sana-sini, kita pertingkatkan BI kita lagi banyak faedahnye...
From: Mohd Hilmi <hilmi@sspsb.com.my>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011 11:03:01
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
Dear Frens, I think para-jump's version of English is also not perfect and riddled with many gramatical errors as well. Let me point it out. 1) Anwar joined UMNO, a national political party in 1983, during which I was then a lecturer in UiTM Terengganu. correction => Anwar joined UMNO in 1983, during which I was a lecturer in UiTM Terengganu. (most Malaysians know UMNO, so don't need to explain ; during which = then, don't repeat) 1) Whereas I joined UMNO in 1981 through Bandar Kluang Branch. = I joined UMNO in 1981 through Bandar Kluang Branch (don't start a sentence with Whereas) 2)Although I was much younger than him but I was senior in term of membership correction => Although I was much younger than him, I was senior in term of membership (don't combine Although with but) 3) His success to rise up the ladder and gained political power smoothly mainly due to the full support and backings from Dr M a) His success to rise up the ladder => rise up? rise = to get up, don't repeat; the ladder of what? ; support = backing (dont repeat) correction => His rise to the ladder of success and gaining smooth political power was mainly due to the full support from Dr M. 4) Obviously, he was popular but least not to forget that no one is perfect anyway correction => Obviously, he was popular but no one is perfect anyway. (make it simple) 4) I trust that with all the recorded lies and damages he made himself, his family, his colleagues and to the nation. ... obviously, he does not deserved to become our next Prime Minister. correction => I trust that with all the recorded lies and damages he made to himself, his family, his colleagues and to the nation. ... obviously, he does not deserve to become our next Prime Minister. 5) Have you ever communicate with foreigners both written (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) and orally spoken (conference, meeting, telephone conversation, discussion; etc) whereby the medium in English. correction => Have you ever communicated with foreigners either in writing (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) or oral (conference, meeting, telephone conversation, discussion; etc) whereby the medium was English? Summary Nas Isma's original version Anwar has entered UMNO politics since 1983, I was a lecturer at ITM Terengganu and entered UMNO politics since 1981 at Bandar Kluang Branch. I am much younger than him but more senior in term of membership. He climbed the ladder of success and gained political power smoothly because of support from Dr M but he was sacked in 1998 because of his wrongdoings. Yes he is popular but do not forget, no one is perfect anyway... I believed with all the lies and troubles he brought to himself, to his family, to his fellow friends and to his country... he is not worth it to become our next Prime Minister. What do you think? para_jump's correction version "Anwar joined UMNO, a national political party in 1983, during which I was then a lecturer in UiTM Terengganu. Whereas I joined UMNO in 1981 through Bandar Kluang Branch.
"Although I was much younger than him but I was senior in term of membership. His success to rise up the ladder and gained political power smoothly mainly due to the full support and backings from Dr M. However, he was later sacked in 1998 from UMNO due to his wrongdoings. Obviously, he was popular but least not to forget that no one is perfect anyway.. I trust that with all the recorded lies and damages he made himself, his family, his colleagues and to the nation. ... obviously, he does not deserved to become our next Prime Minister. What is your response ?" My version "Anwar joined UMNO in 1983, during which I was a lecturer in UiTM Terengganu. I joined UMNO in 1981 through Bandar Kluang Branch. Although I was much younger than him, I was senior in term of membership. His rise to the ladder of success and gaining smooth political power was due to the full support from Dr M. However, he was later sacked in 1998 from UMNO due to his wrongdoings. Obviously, he was popular but no one is perfect anyway.. I trust that with all the recorded lies and damages he made to himself, his family, his colleagues and to the nation. ... obviously, he does not deserve to become our next Prime Minister. What is your response ?" I'm sure lepas ni ada yg akan buat correction/penambah-baikan. I welcome that. I hope my years in Purdue University is not wasted.. Kalau kita nak buat correction, boleh tapi biar la betul supaya org kata jangan jadi macam "ketam nak mengajar anak2nya berjalan betul?". Lagi satu, biar kita ikhlas kalau betul2 nak correct Grammar org, buat la correction. Jgn nak kaitkan dgn penulisan dgn parti org tu pulak...Think positively n selamat beramal... Regards, Hilmi
----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:42 PM Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
We are moving in the right direction when we start to correct one another's English.
Good move. Well done. Those who are being corrected should not feel insulted or degraded but think positively.
rhirowati - rhirowati
--- On Tue, 3/29/11, xstream <pejal71@gmail.com> wrote:
From: xstream <pejal71@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:15 PM
Laaa azlin nih... kita kutuk pasal Nas tuh pegawai penerangan UMNO ko nih apa hallll.... Nas punya English punyalah teruk jadi memang kena kutuk,, tak paham duduk diamlah dengar dan berfikir.. nobody is perfect but pursuing perfection can be deceiving. gua punya english mesti kena QC dulu ha ha ha tapi aku tengok masalah grammar ajer hahaha ayat parajump tetap power On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:31 PM, nor azlin mohd nordin <azlin8@yahoo.com> wrote: Salam para_jump.... tak payah la nak kutuk English orang lain dan sibuk2 nak betulkan when your English is also not without error. Sedap je kata English orang lain horribly terrible, terribly horrible.
Di sini saya tunjukkan sebahagian kesilapan English you:
Have you ever communicate with foreigners both written (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) and orally spoken (conference, meeting, telephone conversation, discussion; etc) whereby the medium in English.
The above sentence should be written as : Have you ever communicated with foreigners either in writing (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) or oral (conference, meeting, telephone conversation, discussion; etc) whereby the medium was English?
One shouldn't condemn other's capability when he himself are not yet perfect.
From: lah68 ripen <lah68_ripen@yahoo.com.sg>
To: para_jump101 airborne <air_strike101@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 9:33:07 PM
Subject: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
Student yang sepatutnya dapat A di bagi B dan yang sepatutnya dapat C dia bagi A+.. hehehee..aku dah kata.. assingment student yang terbaik dia ubahsuai jadi tesis dia kot..? heheheeee.heee... nampaknya dia kena belajar dari Naza pula...
Aku memang hancur kalau BI ni.. tapi sekurang-kurangnya aku masih faham dan boleh baca BI, cuma tak tahu kalau ada kesilapan... kiranya para_jump ni memang boleh tahan BI dia... Aku guna BM jer ler....
From: para_jump101 airborne <air_strike101@yahoo.com>
To: KENALAN-ABADI@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:09:39
Subject: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
Nas Isma,
What a horribly terrible, terribly horrible English is this. Being a former lecturer in the higher learning institution, it was most disgusting to learn that the sentences in this article was written by a such highly educated person. By reading your article, I wonder, how UMNO engaged you as their Information Officer. No doubt, how UMNO is in shambles. In aviation industry, this is called "Foreign Object Damaged (FOD) which may be extremely detrimental to the safety of equipment, aircrews and passengers.
Have you ever communicate with foreigners both written (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) and orally spoken (conference, meeting, telephone conversation, discussion; etc) whereby the medium in English.
Anyway, please allow me to reconstruct and rephrase the sentences to be in a more appropriate English as below:
"Anwar joined UMNO, a national political party in 1983, during which I was then a lecturer in UiTM Terengganu. Whereas I joined UMNO in 1981 through Bandar Kluang Branch.
"Although I was much younger than him but I was senior in term of membership. His success to rise up the ladder and gained political power smoothly mainly due to the full support and backings from Dr M. However, he was later sacked in 1998 from UMNO due to his wrongdoings. Obviously, he was popular but least not to forget that no one is perfect anyway.. I trust that with all the recorded lies and damages he made himself, his family, his colleagues and to the nation. ... obviously, he does not deserved to become our next Prime Minister. What is your response ?"
Notes:
Would you think that the above reconstruction, rephrases of the sentences and the selection of words, were more appropriate and can be easily understood.
In English, you have to select the right words and phrases in order to construct your sentences. The word "Enter" cannot be used as a verb to describe a non-physical object; ie. UMNO is an organization and not a physical object. Enter may be used to a physical object which can seen or felt such as buildings for an example. In this case, the word 'joined" would be more appropriate to be substituted in the above sentence.
Similarly, the next following sentence should be rephrased so as to "bridge" the former sentence which is in continuation of the description to be highlighted.
Anyway, for future articles, please be more careful in your selection of vocabulary when constructing sentences, use of appropriate phrases, grammar and nouns. The articles produced will reflect the author's or person's level, capability and the knowledge of vocabulary.
para_jump101
--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Nas Isma <angahku_01@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Nas Isma <angahku_01@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DAH TERKANTOI, DIA TABUR FITNAH PULAK???
To: "xstream" <pejal71@gmail.com>, "Hasno bin Hashim Hashim" <hasno.hashim@yahoo.com>
Cc: "MalaysiaNews" <MalaysiaNews@yahoogroups.com>, PerisikRakyat@yahoogroups.com, KENALAN-ABADI@yahoogroups.com, that421@yahoo.com, "Roslan Salleh" <roslan.salleh@yahoo.com.my>, wafi_74@yahoo.com.my, wwannora@yahoo.com, zwh80_aries@yahoo.com, "Aziz" <aziz@precico.com.my>, "MURAD" <murad@precico.com.my>, mdrozali.mohdnor@samsung.com, "tokda tokda" <tokda_tokda@yahoo.com>, "taufik ahmad" <taufik26878@yahoo.com>, lah68_ripen@yahoo.com.sg, "Nik Mahdhir Ariffin Nik" <nikmahdhir_82@yahoo.com.my>, "Fiqa Huda" <fiqahuda@yahoo.com.my>, farhansobri@yahoo.com, nazacomp@gmail.com, "Najib Malik" <sham_najib@yahoo.com>, "UMNO - Zulkepli Abu Samah" <zas62000@yahoo.com.sg>, "para_jump101 airborne" <air_strike101@yahoo.com>, "yusri khatib" <yusri762002@yahoo.com>, faridahib@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 5:11 PM
Anwar has entered UMNO politics since 1983, I was a lecturer at ITM Terengganu and entered UMNO politics since 1981 at Bandar Kluang Branch. I am much younger than him but more senior in term of membership. He climbed the ladder of success and gained political power smoothly because of support from Dr M but he was sacked in 1998 because of his wrongdoings. Yes he is popular but do not forget, no one is perfect anyway... I believed with all the lies and troubles he brought to himself, to his family, to his fellow friends and to his country... he is not worth it to become our next Prime Minister. What do you think?
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