Thursday, March 31, 2011

RG09... Mari belajar bahasa

 

itu satu isu yang 'constructive' jangan ambil hati biar sama2 tahu kesilapan dalam bahasa ingeris dan sama2 belajar. yang bagi komen tahniah. Nas Isma belajar di America dan bahasa ingeris dia ada perbezaan dengan Negara Commanwealth. Di America mmg banyak bahasa pasar berbanding UK, Memang banyak kesilapan kerana translate dri melayu ke ingeris.

From: nor azlin mohd nordin <azlin8@yahoo.com>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 17:34:36
Subject: Re: RG09... NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH???

 

Kesah la tu...kalau tak, tentu tak baca dan komen kat sini. haha

From: Ct Fatima <kuntum755@yahoo.com>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 12:15:50 PM
Subject: Re: RG09... NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH???

 

ada kukesah ko ngaji kat mane..uhuhu


From: Herry Potter <wiraab@yahoo.com.my>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com; m <saaidramdzan@yahoo.com>; rio hirowati <riorhs@yahoo.com>; pejal71@gmail.com
Sent: Wed, March 30, 2011 2:00:53 AM
Subject: Re: RG09... NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH???

 

allamkk bukan calang calang punya mengaji ye saudara nas isma ni.... jauh tu mengaji..alhamdulillah.. 
 

Best Regards

-Pokciks-



From: Nas Isma <angahku_01@yahoo.com>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com; m <saaidramdzan@yahoo.com>; rio hirowati <riorhs@yahoo.com>; pejal71@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 March 2011 23:04:19
Subject: RG09... NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH???

 

Alhamdulillah ada juga sahabat seagama dan sebangsa yang sudi nak perbetulkan English Angah. Angah terima teguran yang baik itu sebab Angah memang dari sekolah aliran Melayu sampai tingkatan Enam. English Angah berterabur. Terima kasih.
 
Dimaklumkan Angah atau NAS ISMA merupakan antara dua orang bekas pelajar DPA ITM aliran Melayu pertama yang telah dihantar ke USA pada tahun 1978 oleh JPA. Angah dan Prof Dr Musa Ahmad (UiTM Melaka)  dititipkan dalam Young Lecturer Scheme untuk ITM. Namun Angah bersyukur kerana telah berjaya menamatkan pengajian dan lulus dengan susah payah dalam bahasa Uncle Sam di The George Washington Univesity (GWU), bidang Political Science with minor in Urban Sociology.
 
Ish sorry English Angah teruk sikit...MAAF key?  Log on www.GWHatchet.com
 
PS... Angah ingat kat dunia cyber tak ada guru English perfect yang jumud kepala. Rupa2nyer ada.. Hehehehe
From: saaid ramdzan ismail <saaidramdzan@yahoo.com>
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011 10:24:12 PM
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???

 

what can you expect from a goon like UMNOs.ask most of their members and they will say that UMNO is derive from a malay abreviation of god knows what.

--- On Tue, 3/29/11, rio hirowati <riorhs@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: rio hirowati <riorhs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:42 PM

 

      We are moving in the right direction when we start to correct one another's English.
Good move. Well done. Those who are being corrected should not feel insulted or degraded but think positively.
rhirowati - rhirowati


--- On Tue, 3/29/11, xstream <pejal71@gmail.com> wrote:

From: xstream <pejal71@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???
To: respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 2:15 PM

 
Laaa azlin nih... kita kutuk pasal Nas tuh pegawai penerangan UMNO ko nih apa hallll.... Nas punya English punyalah teruk jadi memang kena kutuk,, tak paham duduk diamlah dengar dan berfikir.. nobody is perfect but pursuing perfection can be deceiving. gua punya english mesti kena QC dulu ha ha ha tapi aku tengok masalah grammar ajer hahaha ayat parajump tetap power

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:31 PM, nor azlin mohd nordin <azlin8@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Salam para_jump.... tak payah la nak kutuk English orang lain dan sibuk2 nak betulkan when your English is also not without error. Sedap je kata English orang lain horribly terrible, terribly horrible.  

Di sini saya tunjukkan sebahagian kesilapan English you:

Have you ever communicate with foreigners both written (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) and orally spoken (conference, meeting, telephone conversation,  discussion; etc)  whereby the medium in English.  

The above sentence should be written as :
Have you ever communicated with foreigners either in writing (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) or oral (conference, meeting, telephone conversation,  discussion; etc)  whereby the medium was English?  


One shouldn't condemn other's capability when he himself are not yet perfect. 
 

From: lah68 ripen <lah68_ripen@yahoo.com.sg>
To: para_jump101 airborne <air_strike101@yahoo.com>

Cc: PerisikRakyat@yahoogroups.com; respeks_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 9:33:07 PM
Subject: RG09... Re: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???

 
Student yang sepatutnya dapat A di bagi B dan yang sepatutnya dapat C dia bagi A+.. hehehee..aku dah kata.. assingment student yang terbaik dia ubahsuai jadi tesis dia kot..?
heheheeee.heee... nampaknya dia kena belajar dari Naza pula...
Aku memang hancur kalau BI ni.. tapi sekurang-kurangnya aku masih faham dan boleh baca BI, cuma tak tahu kalau ada kesilapan... kiranya para_jump ni memang boleh tahan BI dia...
Aku guna BM jer ler.... 

From: para_jump101 airborne <air_strike101@yahoo.com>
To: KENALAN-ABADI@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Nas Isma <angahku_01@yahoo.com>; xstream <pejal71@gmail.com>; Hasno bin Hashim Hashim <hasno.hashim@yahoo.com>; that421@yahoo.com; Roslan Salleh <roslan.salleh@yahoo.com.my>; wafi_74@yahoo.com.my; wwannora@yahoo.com; zwh80_aries@yahoo.com; Aziz <aziz@precico.com.my>; MURAD <murad@precico.com.my>; mdrozali.mohdnor@samsung.com; tokda tokda <tokda_tokda@yahoo.com>; taufik ahmad <taufik26878@yahoo.com>; lah68_ripen@yahoo.com.sg; Nik Mahdhir Ariffin Nik <nikmahdhir_82@yahoo.com.my>; Fiqa Huda <fiqahuda@yahoo.com.my>; farhansobri@yahoo.com; nazacomp@gmail.com; Najib Malik <sham_najib@yahoo.com>; UMNO - Zulkepli Abu Samah <zas62000@yahoo.com.sg>; yusri khatib <yusri762002@yahoo.com>; faridahib@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, 27 March 2011 22:09:39
Subject: NAS ISMA - WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR ENGLISH VOCABULARY ???


Nas Isma,

What a horribly terrible, terribly horrible English is this. Being a former lecturer in the higher learning institution, it was most disgusting to learn that the sentences in this article was written by a such highly educated person. By reading your article, I wonder, how UMNO engaged you as their Information Officer. No doubt, how UMNO is in shambles. In aviation industry, this is called "Foreign Object Damaged (FOD) which may be extremely detrimental to the safety of equipment, aircrews and passengers.

Have you ever communicate with foreigners both written (letters, fax, e-mail, telegraph; etc) and orally spoken (conference, meeting, telephone conversation,  discussion; etc)  whereby the medium in English. 



Anyway, please allow me to reconstruct and rephrase the sentences to be in a more appropriate English as below:

"Anwar joined UMNO, a national political party in 1983, during which I was then a lecturer in UiTM Terengganu. Whereas I joined UMNO in 1981 through Bandar Kluang Branch.


"Although I was much younger than him but I was senior in term of membership. His success to rise up the ladder and gained political power smoothly mainly due to the full support and backings from Dr M. However, he was later sacked in 1998 from UMNO due to his wrongdoings. Obviously, he was popular but least not to forget that no one is perfect anyway.. I trust that with all the recorded lies and damages he made himself, his family, his colleagues and to the nation. ... obviously, he does not deserved to become our next Prime Minister. What is your response ?"

Notes:


Would you think that the above reconstruction, rephrases of the sentences and the selection of words, were more appropriate and can be easily understood.

In English, you have to select the right words and phrases in order to construct your sentences. The word "Enter" cannot be used as a verb to describe a non-physical object; ie. UMNO is an organization and not a physical object. Enter may be used to a physical object which can seen or felt such as buildings for an example. In this case, the word 'joined" would be more appropriate to be substituted in the above sentence.

Similarly, the next following sentence should be rephrased so as to "bridge" the former sentence which is in continuation of the description to be highlighted.
 
Anyway, for future articles, please be more careful in your selection of vocabulary when constructing sentences, use of appropriate phrases, grammar and nouns. The articles produced will reflect the author's or person's level, capability and the knowledge of vocabulary. 


para_jump101






--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Nas Isma <angahku_01@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nas Isma <angahku_01@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DAH TERKANTOI, DIA TABUR FITNAH PULAK???
To: "xstream" <pejal71@gmail.com>, "Hasno bin Hashim Hashim" <hasno.hashim@yahoo.com>
Cc: "MalaysiaNews" <MalaysiaNews@yahoogroups.com>, PerisikRakyat@yahoogroups.com, KENALAN-ABADI@yahoogroups.com, that421@yahoo.com, "Roslan Salleh" <roslan.salleh@yahoo.com.my>, wafi_74@yahoo.com.my, wwannora@yahoo.com, zwh80_aries@yahoo.com, "Aziz" <aziz@precico.com.my>, "MURAD" <murad@precico.com.my>, mdrozali.mohdnor@samsung.com, "tokda tokda" <tokda_tokda@yahoo.com>, "taufik ahmad" <taufik26878@yahoo.com>, lah68_ripen@yahoo.com.sg, "Nik Mahdhir Ariffin Nik" <nikmahdhir_82@yahoo.com.my>, "Fiqa Huda" <fiqahuda@yahoo.com.my>, farhansobri@yahoo.com, nazacomp@gmail.com, "Najib Malik" <sham_najib@yahoo.com>, "UMNO - Zulkepli Abu Samah" <zas62000@yahoo.com.sg>, "para_jump101 airborne" <air_strike101@yahoo.com>, "yusri khatib" <yusri762002@yahoo.com>, faridahib@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 5:11 PM

Anwar has entered UMNO politics since 1983, I was a lecturer at ITM Terengganu and entered UMNO politics since 1981 at Bandar Kluang Branch. I am much younger than him but more senior in term of membership. He climbed the ladder of success and gained political power smoothly because of support from Dr M but he was sacked in 1998 because of his wrongdoings. Yes he is popular but do not forget, no one is perfect anyway... I believed with all the lies and troubles he brought to himself, to his family, to his fellow friends and to his country... he is not worth it to become our next Prime Minister. What do you think?






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