Monday, June 3, 2013

Re: RG2011... Malangnya Nasib Wanita Pakistan Jika Dirogol,Bukti dna Tidak Terpakai.

 

DNA bukan primary evidence untuk membolehkan perogol dikenakan hukuman hudud je. bukannya terlepas daripada hukuman terus. Perogol tu boleh dikenakan hukuman penjara dsb. artikel ni berkaitan hudud, bukannya civil law. dalam kesalahan hudud, hanya dua je primary evidence; Pengakuan tertuduh & 4 orang saksi yg adil. Dalam kes zina ni di zaman rasullullah SAW belum pernah lagi saya terbaca adanya 4 orang saksi. kalau ada bagitaulah ye. Kebanyakan yg dicatatkan adalah pengakuan tertuduh. Kena faham konsep hudud, kena elak mengenakan hukuman hudud selagi ada ruang / sebab untuk elak. Hudud tetap menjadi law tapi pesalahnya mungkin terlepas daripada hukuman hudud kerana sebab2 tertentu dan dipindahkan kepada civil law. Setakat DNA, boleh dimanipulasikan oleh pihak berkepentingan, Doktor mungkin tidak amanah. Menghukum bukanlah elemen utama dalam hudud. Tiada negara kebajikan, walaupun negara melaksanakan islamic law, pesalah hudud tidak akan dikenakan hukuman hudud, hanya takzir sebagaimana civil law. Pencuri tiada sebab untuk mencuri kerana pemerintah menjaga kebajikan rakyatnya, penzina tidak lagi boleh menyalahkan keadaan persekitaran kerana kerajaan telah menutup pub2, menyekat sumber pornografi, mendidik masyarakat dsb. Walaupun, sepertinya bermimpi adanya negara kebajikan, kita hanya perlu berusaha ke arahnya kerana kejayaan itu hanya di akhirat, di dunia, mungkin dapat, mungkin tidak. Allah menilainya. Apa pun, tak pasti, bagaimana justifikasi pelaksanaan hudud di negara2 yg melaksanakannya sekarang.

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Subject: RG2011... Malangnya Nasib Wanita Pakistan Jika Dirogol,Bukti dna Tidak Terpakai.

 

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Muslim Council Pooh-Poohs DNA Rape Evidence2

Terry Firma

The Council of Islamic Ideology (pictured), Pakistan's top Islamic body, takes a dim view of DNA evidence in the case of rape. The Council, in a rare nod to modernity, is prepared to consider DNA as supporting evidence in a rape investigation, but decreed this week thatDNA can never be primary evidence.
The reason: the Qur'an already provides an established procedure for dealing with rape allegations.
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According to Pakistan Today,
Most members of the council were of the opinion that Islam gave detailed guidelines in connection with the nature, accusation, justification, punishment and compensation in case of rape of any member of the society.
Hafiz Tahir Ashrafi, Maulana Sherani, Mufti Ghulam Mustafa Rizvi and some other members of the council termed DNA test in connection with forced rape as insufficient evidence
Members of the council said rape was a crime that required much care in account of evidences and DNA did not stand with accurate parameters as evidence for the crime.
How does an Islamic justice system prefer to determine whether a woman was raped? Rapists rarely perform their evil in front of witnesses, but by Allah, the victim must produce four of them to have her day in court. That's correct: The Muslim standard of justice is thatfour men in good standing must give testimony affirming the rape took place. Women may not testify.
Oh, and spousal rape is not an offense under Islam at all.
Neither is the rape of a non-Muslim woman if she was 'captured in battle' or bought as a slave.
Sorry, ladies.



 

DNA test unacceptable evidence of rape, CII declares

Anwer AbbasWednesday, 29 May 2013 11:13 pm | Comments (12)
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The country's top Islamic guidance body, Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), on Wednesday declared the Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) test unacceptable as evidence in case of forced rape, besides terming cloning as unethical and un-Islamic.

The members of the Council of Islamic Ideology met under the chairmanship of Maulana Mohammad Khan Sherani during a two-day sitting of the council.

CII members declared the cloning process 'Haram' or 'forbidden' under Islam, saying it would not be permitted.

However, the cloning procedure could be used for the replacement of damaged body parts, or the growth of new parts of the human body for which the body is reviewing the issue, the council members stressed.

The council on issue of forced rape held a detailed debate in relation with the evidences acceptable under the law.

Most members of the council were of the opinion that Islam gave detailed guidelines in connection with the nature, accusation, justification, punishment and compensation in case of rape of any member of the society.

Hafiz Tahir Ashrafi, Maulana Sherani, Mufti Ghulam Mustafa Rizvi and some other members of the council termed DNA test in connection with forced rape as insufficient evidence, saying weak evidence could affect the health of the issue as well as distorting it from the reality.

Elaborating, they said DNA test could prove much helpful in such cases so it should be accepted as secondary evidence.

Members of the council said rape was a crime that required much care in account of evidences and DNA did not stand with accurate parameters as evidence for the crime.

Over the issue of blasphemy laws in the country, the council warned the government not to alter the current laws, saying members of the council would continue reviewing it.

Hafiz Tahir Mahmood Ashrafi clarified that all members of the council agreed that blasphemy law should stay, however, its misuse should be halted regardless of the religion.

"No one should be permitted to misuse the law, whether one is Muslim or non-Muslim," Ashrafi said.

The council also recommended using Islamic words (like Allah, Paighambar, Rasool, Masjid) should not be replaced by the identical synonyms in other languages.

The members maintained that the use of synonyms like holy book or holy place was forbidden in the Islam.

The council also recommended sending drafts for the purpose to all provincial education ministries, Higher Education Commission and all text book boards.

It also expressed concern over the exclusion of subjects portraying Islamic teachings, ideology of Pakistan, nationalism and religious teachings from the curriculum and replacing them with other subjects.

The CII also directed the research DG and Council Secretary Ilyas Khan to acquire the curriculum from class one to matriculation and indicate the flaws in accordance with Islamic teachings.

The council chairman also directed member Allama Zubair Ahmed Zaheer to review the educational syllabus and curriculum being taught in Gilgit-Baltistan, Azad Jammu and Kashmir and to present a detailed report before the members of the council.

On the differences among various committees for sighting the Eid moon, the council also decided to call a negotiating session in which the central and provincial moon-sighting committees would be requested to participate in order to remove the existing issues.



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